The Dropout Crisis: Not Just An Urban Problem
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About the series: Every Monday, from Feb. 9 to March 30, WBUR’s Morning Edition features Project Dropout reports. We’ll look at some of the reasons why kids leave school, why the dropout rate isn’t getting lower, how it affects all of us and what we should do about it. More information »
By Monica Brady-Myerov (WBUR)
It’s a school problem centered on Massachusetts cities — for many people across the state, that’s the view of the high-school dropout rate. The fact is, the dropout rates are higher in cities. For example, nearly 15 percent of students in the city of Lawrence drop out out each year, compared with many suburban towns which lose fewer than 1 percent of students a year. Analysts say the problem needs to be addressed in all communities with high schools.
NEIL SULLIVAN: We all have a stake in reversing the high school drop out crisis.
Neil Sullivan is executive director of the Boston Private Industry Council, a public-private partnership that connects businesses with Boston Public Schools.
SULLIVAN: Each high-school dropout costs the taxpayer $455,000 over a lifetime. The cost of public dependency, which ranges from transitional assistance payments to health care subsidies to incarceration and the lost taxes that comes from lower lifetime earnings.
Over the coming weeks we’ll take a close look at the dropout crisis in a series of reports called “Project Dropout.”
CARLOS PORTILLO: I haven’t been going for these past like two weeks.
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Carlos Portillo is 17 and has not dropped out of school, but he’s considering it. He’s skipping school a lot, and the challenges he’s facing indicate he’s on the path to leaving. It started in elementary school, when he was picked on because he’s overweight. He became disruptive in class, was suspended and ended up flunking two grades. He’s two years older than his peers in the sophomore class of Chelsea High school.
PORTILLO: I kind of feel weird staying back with younger kids and feel left out, and if I stay back again, I’ll be, like, 18. When I graduate I’ll be, like, 21.
If Carlos leaves school for good, he will join more than 11,000 students statewide who drop out each year. For the past 10 years the dropout rate has held steady: about 3 percent a year. But to better understand the impact, you need to look over time and see that only 80 percent of incoming freshmen in the commonwealth graduate four years later.
That’s not good enough, says the state’s Education Commissioner Mitchell Chester.
MITCHELL CHESTER: The fact that the drop out rate is not increasing is not by itself something to celebrate and we do need to do better.
Gov. Deval Patrick wants to cut the dropout rate by 25 percent by the end of his first term, two years from now. That means hanging on to 2,750 more students each year. Commissioner Chester won’t say how far along the state is toward meeting that goal, but he’s concerned.
CHESTER: And do I worry quite a bit about the impact of the economic downturn both on our school districts as well as on our private lives of our students. We are going to see growing number of families in fiscal distress and that’s going to make the job harder.
Such financial pressures are part of what’s driving Carlos Portillo to think about leaving school. His mom can’t pay the rent, and he wants to get a job.
PORTILLO: I wanna help my mom with the rent and help my brothers getting clothes and stuff.
If Carlos decides to quit school, it will be the biggest decision of his life, affecting his earning potential and health. If he has children, it could affect them, too. But trying to convince Carlos to stay in school is difficult.
Rebecca Nice works with Carlos and many other at-risk teens at ROCA a youth center in Chelsea.
REBECCA NICE: It’s a process of trying to get them to think about the long term. How much more will you be able to help your mom if you make it through college and have a degree and are earning thousands of dollars more than you would have if you hadn’t?
Engagement with an adult can be crucial to a child’s academic success. But many teachers say they feel unprepared for the challenges of dealing with the multifaceted problem of dropouts. A recent Gates Foundation report shows that poverty and race play large roles — especially in urban school districts such as Boston’s, where Latino and black students have consistently higher dropout out rates than white students. William Hayes, who teaches ninth grade at the New Mission High School in Boston, says there’s only so much teachers can do.
WILLIAM HAYES: By the time a kid enters your classroom, there’s whole bunch of issues that are stacked up on each other. And part of that is understanding the student and where they come from and now they navigate school and their communities and they bring with them all that. I think there’s so many things teachers need to take into consideration when teaching these students that we don’t necessarily get they aren’t prepared for in our teacher education programs.
There are many reasons why kids drop out. But they can be boiled down to three categories: academic, school climate and personal. Here are a few dropouts.
STUDENT VOICES: I’m Melia, and I’m 17. I dropped out because I didn’t like my school because I was getting into a lot of fights.
I’m Heidi, and I’m 25. I got into the whole party scene and I never wanted to go to school and was skipping school constantly and I just fell way behind, so I left.
I’m Antonio Rosa, a k a Dudu. I’m 20 years old. I wasn’t a stupid kid. I was smart in school. I never had the patience to be in school.
All three of these former students think they could have succeeded in school and they regret their decision to leave. Dudu, for instance.
ANTONIO ROSA: I know how difficult it would be to get by without a diploma because I seen all my cousins, uncles everybody in my family not a lot of people have graduated not a lot of people have high school diplomas so I knew what I was going to be expecting. Now that I’m dropped out now I got nothing but mad regrets. I wish I was still in school. I wish I would have finished it would have made my life a lot easier.
And if Dudu had finished high school, he would earn almost $10,000 more a year. He would have better health and live longer. He also would be less likely to depend on public assistance, be imprisoned, or become a single parent. These are all quantifiable affects of a high school diploma identified in a recent study by economists at Northeastern University.
At ROCA in Chelsea these facts are hanging on handmade signs around the building to get kids to think twice about leaving school. Carlos Portillo is a mentor to other students, but when I visited in the fall, he told his peers he’s doesn’t think he can stay.
CLASS DISCUSSION: What’s the reason for dropping out? What’s the reason? I don’t want to stay I want to get my GED while working so I can help my mom. Get my ged have something better afterwards probably go to college and also working to help my mom out.
Don’t want to stay for another two years, I want to get my GED and get it over with.
We don’t want you to drop out and think that none of us cared and were concerned because every single person in this room has talked to me about being worried about you.
With all that’s stacked against Carlos — he’s flunked two grades, he’s not attending school, he feels pressure to help his mom — there are many things working to keep him in school — caring adults at ROCA, supportive friends who are in school and the chance to be a role model of success for other students. But will they be enough?

















February 9th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Dear Monica,
I have prepared a concept paper summarizing a program that would bring together human service agencies, the business community, institutions of higher learning and volunteer mentors to assist young disadvantaged men and women with academic potential to:
· prepare for higher education, such as college or other post secondary school education and training;
· overcome personal, financial and systemic obstacles that have prevented them from being productive;
· engage in chosen fields of study;
· secure employment;
· pursue successful careers.
While I am aware of programs that provide mentoring and other types of services to young people, I am not aware of any that seeks to bring all the resources mentioned above together comprehensively in a coordinated manner.
I would be pleased to share the concept paper with you and have the opportunity to meet with you and/or other appropriate individuals to discuss this idea and how it might be implemented.
Thanks for your interest.
Best wishes,
Bob DeSimone
80 Ripley Street
Newton Centre, MA 02459
781-933-6399 Office
617-332-7272
radesi@rcn.com
February 11th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Dear Monica Brady-Myerov:
Thanks for investigating the school drop out issue, it is a very important topic.
Attempting to find a cause for the high drop out rate based on the experiences of individuals can be useful but, at the same time, confusing. Each former student has a different story and an observer can easily feel that there is no clear cause and effect pattern.
But the statistics comparing graduation rates of large social groups are revealing. Asian and white students outcomes are far better than those of black and Hispanic students. My observation is the prime reason for the difference is the high value the parents of Asian and white students place on education and, in contrast, the lower value black and Hispanic parents have for education. The greatest influences on a students attitude toward school and the probability of educational success is parental. The cumulative influence of the cultural group on individuals has a dramatic influence on the attitudes of individual students. If the group does not value education, their students in that group will have a much lower chance for success. If this were not true, the success of the children of all groups would be similar but isn’t .
Schools are run by governments, and government is run by politicians who avoid telling their constituent voter parents of failing children that what has to change are parents. Political leaders count every vote and feel it isn’t in their political interest to tell parents that they are a big part of the problem. It Is easier for them to spend more on schools than to tell voters the truth.
The budgets of schools with the greatest rate of drop-outs are much larger (per student) than those of schools with low drop out rates. More money spent in the current programs has not and will not and cant solve the problem. It will take real political leadership to refocus efforts on the methods that change the cultural / education paradigm. So far, our political leaders have not been willing to tell their constituent parents that they are a principal part of the problem and are the key to the solution. Until they do this, not much progress can be expected.
There are a number of ways to approach the issue including the suggestions of Bob Desimone (above) and others. Mentors for students can help, but it will be far better to develop programs that mentor both students and their parents (who volunteer to be helped). With a consistent effort, over time, it is possible to have success stories become examples and slowly change the cultural educational paradigm to one that values education and motivates kids to succeed. It will take a new approach for schools to help both students and their parents. My hope is that the real problem will be recognized and addressed. Simply spending more and more money on trying to educate kids who don’t want to go to school wont work.
Drew Horn
February 16th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Thank you for your program on school dropouts and the consequences. Nowhere in your stories do we hear about the role of school administrators in this dynamic. While strong families would certainly help, many people who have worked in the public schools, many who have advocated for students, and many students who have seen their peers leave school have stories of administrators who push out students who they consider trouble-makers. It may be disinterest in referring a troubled teenager for counseling because the administrator fears the potential costs to the school for counseling or special education services. It may be that these students are rarely a welcome addition to the school’s MCAS’s scores. It may be a simple judgment that some kids have a negative effect on the good order of the high school. (High schools were created in 19th century America to teach farm children basic skills and orderly behavior so they could be productive workers in the manufacturing economy.) Whatever the motivation, many students like those in your stories drop out because they were not provided with the supports that they needed and in fact were targeted for pressure to shape up or drop out by school administrators. Until our education system adopts the ethic that there are no students who should be thrown away to the tender mercies of a competitive economy, our society will continue to lose as much as these kids in economic and social costs.
March 22nd, 2009 at 7:48 pm
hello
just thanks
May 20th, 2009 at 11:13 am
i drop out 4 times in my life. i had no support and i believed that i was going to be a bum my whole life. untill i saw that there are schools and teachers out there that care for a childs education. my school, Phoenix Charter Academy, is one of the best schools in massachusets. without them i would not be graduating in less than 3 weeks. i am shocked and surprised at myself that i am getting a high school diploma. i want to show everyone who told me i was not going to graduate, that i did it, and i did it without there support. all a scholar has to do is belive in yourself and dont let anyone tell you that you cant do something. you can do and be anyone in life and have the power to believe in your self.